Life is lived in stories. Relationships are built through conversations. We're Denise and Tim. We met while working in Seattle in our twenties and have been writing our story together ever since. Over the years we've built careers, raised three sons, navigated military life, moved from Washington to Arizona, written books, cheered from countless sidelines, and learned that life's biggest lessons are usually found in ordinary conversations. Today, our family is growing in new directions, our two Labrador retrievers keep life interesting, and we're still convinced that summer, travel, sports, and a good story make almost everything better. You'll usually find us around the table with a cup of coffee, a good bourbon, or a glass of wine in hand. Denise tends to notice the meaning woven through everyday moments. Tim naturally looks for the practical lessons and the patterns beneath them. We don't always see the same story in the same way, and somewh
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Signup to Generate a PitchLife is lived in stories. Relationships are built through conversations. We're Denise and Tim. We met while working in Seattle in our twenties and have been writing our story together ever since.
Our Rough Draft is hosted by Tim & Denise. The show has published 46 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Should Leaders Always Eat Last?" (27 October 2026, 39 minutes), "What Do We Hope for Our Kids as They Leave Home?" (20 October 2026, 26 minutes), and "Finding Your People Without Losing the Bigger Picture" (6 October 2026, 52 minutes).
Our Rough Draft publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 45 minutes across 46 episodes.
Booking probability for Our Rough Draft is 32%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Our Rough Draft requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Our Rough Draft's contact route on record: verified email.
Tim & Denise hosts Our Rough Draft, a society podcast with 46 episodes published.
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Episode #47
“Leaders eat last is such bullshit.” That’s Denise’s opening position. Tim, her Army husband, sees it differently. Drawing on their experiences in the military, corporate leadership, and education, Denise and Tim...
Episode #46
What Do We Hope for Our Kids as They Leave Home? Denise Waters and Tim reflect on what it feels like to watch their kids step into the world, using a recent college visit for Mason as their starting point. They explore...
Episode #45
This week, Thatcher joins us for a conversation that starts with social media and sports, then wanders into belonging, democracy, echo chambers, empty nesting, and what it means to build a family people want to come...
Episode #44
In this episode, Denise and Tim talk about publishing, social media, platform numbers, and the ache of putting creative work into the world without always knowing if it is reaching anyone. What begins as a conversation...
Episode #43
In this episode, Denise and Tim begin with football Sunday, cooler Arizona mornings, and the small rituals that mark the changing of a season. From there, the conversation turns toward networking, putting yourself out...
Episode #42
In this episode of Our Rough Draft , Denise and Tim talk about their recent trip to Seattle and what it stirred up about place, memory, spontaneity, and the way our worlds can slowly get smaller if we are not...
Episode #41
In this episode of Our Rough Draft, Denise and Tim celebrate the start of year two by asking what it means to still be a rough draft. Together, they talk about confidence, belonging, work, aging, marriage, parenting...
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In this episode, Denise and Tim celebrate Tim’s 55th birthday and use the occasion to think about birthdays, memory, family stories, and the ways we mark time together. Together, they reflect on the birthdays they...
Episode #39
What happens when you stop checking grades? In this episode, Denise and Tim talk about the start of a new school year, the rituals they no longer participate in, and how their relationship with school has changed after...
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A conversation about home, memory, and the stories our spaces hold. What turns a house into your house? In this episode, Tim and Denise look around their own home and talk about the things that have gathered there over...
Episode #37
A conversation about service, uncertainty, and preparing for the unknown. How do you prepare for something you've never experienced? In this episode, Tim shares the story of traveling to Iraq for the first time—from the...
Episode #36
A conversation about connection, marriage, and the people who help us find our way back. What if the way you naturally reconnect isn't the same as your partner's? In this episode, we take Denise's new Connection Quiz...
Episode #35
Why does outrage feel so powerful—and what if it's hiding something deeper? In this episode of Our Rough Draft , Denise and Tim explore what fuels outrage and why it's become such a defining part of our culture. What...
Episode #34
What kind of legacy are you leaving—whether you realize it or not? In this episode of Our Rough Draft , Tim turns the microphone around and interviews Denise about her memoir, One of the Heard . Together, they explore...
Episode #12
Senior Year Reflections: Unspoken Expectations and Life Lessons from Parents and Students In this candid episode, Denise and Tim share authentic stories about the rollercoaster of senior year—navigating school...
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Creating Belonging: A Conversation on Values, Trust, and Family In this episode, we explore the significance of belonging within families, communities, and organizations. Our discussion dives into defining core values...
Episode #10
<p>Denise and Tim celebrate Denise's birthday talking about their best adventures including kayaking in the San Juans, Mazatlan and San Diego. They list their favorite adventures spots including Rainier and the Grand...
Episode #9
<p>Denise and Tim share the couch once again, debrief Denise's trip and discuss ways to make sure coming back together feels right. Ideas around keeping connected with kids while also having grand adventures!</p>
Episode #8
<p>Tim and Denise talk about the importance of Memorial Day before getting into details of the Road Trip and fears along the way! </p>
Episode #7
<p>Tim and Denise connect, Denise in Orlando and Tim at home. WDW conversations and more. How do you like to do Disney? How do you approach new situations? (Minor swearing; we don't count that as explicit!)</p>
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