Neurogenic Integration Podcast

Listen to conversations and interviews hosted by Neurogenic Integration, where we explore Neurogenic Tremoring, nervous system health, and real human experiences.

Neurogenic Integration Podcast is a arts podcast hosted by Alex, with 26 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Alex hosts Neurogenic Integration Podcast, a arts show with 26 episodes published.

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  Episode #26

  Post-Traumatic Growth Up Close: A Coma, Neuroplasticity & the Way Back with Dr. Justin Kennedy

  Sep 4, 202648 min

  In the Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) certification program there's an idea we keep coming back to: post-traumatic growth. The possibility that moving through trauma can redirect a life toward something bigger and more purposeful. It's easy to describe and much harder to point at. Dr. Justin Kennedy is what it looks like up close. He was 29, on a motorbike on a wet road in Cape Town, when a car came out of nowhere. His helmet smashed open and so did his head, and the traumatic brain injury that followed left him in a coma. Years later he told Marshall Goldsmith that the hardest part had not been learning to walk again. The hardest part was learning how to feel happy again. In this episode, Siv sits down with Justin to trace that arc: the subdural haemorrhage and the slow, twenty-hours-a-day emergence from a coma; the first time he let go of the parallel bars and walked alone; the strange discovery that when you can't say the word "exuberant," you struggle to feel it; the depression nobody warned him about, and the two unglamorous ingredients — something to grapple with, and people who love you — that moved him from surviving into building. It's also a conversation about routes in. Justin could hear every word of psychotherapy and couldn't speak enough to use it — worth sitting with for anyone whose work goes through the body rather than through language, Neurogenic Tremoring included. What grew out of the recovery was a doctoral thesis, a TED talk, a book, and the npn Hub — a global community of practitioners who want applied neuroscience out of the journals and into real rooms. Justin and Siv first met there, and Neurogenic Integration has since formed a partnership with the npn Hub: graduates of our Online TRE® Certification can go on to earn the npn neuroplastician credential — validation from an external, international advisory board. Justin is also offering listeners a free copy of his book Brain Reboot and a VIP guest pass to the hub. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 2:40 - A rainy day in Cape Town and the car that came out of nowhere 4:30 - Coming out of a coma isn't waking up 6:35 - The first goal: walking again 7:15 - Letting go of the rails 8:36 - "The Broca centre in my brain was broken" 9:41 - If you can't say "exuberant," can you feel it? 11:51 - Neuroplasticity becomes the whole universe 13:57 - The two ingredients: a goal and social support 15:38 - Healing alone versus healing in a tribe 17:11 - "The brain is a social organ" 18:57 - "Why don't we start an institute?" — the prakademic idea 21:25 - Speaking on the science, not in the science 22:54 - Where TRE® fits in a neuroscience community 26:30 - "No professors or princesses — we're all wearing the same crown" 30:34 - Inside the hub: orientation, brain pods and round tables 3 8:09 - The round table whose host never showed up 40:20 - Closing reflections RESOURCES & LINKS Your VIP Neuroplastician Pass: JOIN HERE - on the top right A Apply: npnGuest-30 in ‘’ Add Promo Code’ ’ - bottom left I also gave you access NeuroStarter.com for free with your email Here’s the Neuroplastician® Credential As promised here's my book Brain Reboot And our recent Harvard Business Review article Connect with Dr. Justin Kennedy — professor, applied neuroscientist, executive coach, author of Brain Reboot , and founder of the npn Hub, a credentialing body and community of practice for practitioners applying neuroplasticity-based tools: https://npnhub.com Also mentioned: Marshall Goldsmith (executive coach, and a contributor to Brain Reboot ), the npn Institute and the neuroplastician credential, and Professors Michael Platt and Paul Zak, who have both dropped into hub round tables. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Explore our Online TRE® Certification — and the npn credential pathway → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #25

  E25 - TRE & the Nervous System of Leadership with Isabelle Claus Teixeira

  Aug 7, 20261h 14m

  For years, Isabelle Claus Teixeira trained leaders on everything you could put on a slide — competencies, values, communication. But one question kept coming back that no framework could answer: what actually creates executive presence? The search took her out of her own head and into her body, and eventually to a floor in Singapore, tremoring, finally getting the answer she'd been chasing for a career. In this episode, Alex sits down with Isabelle to trace that arc: from a French law student who wanted to be a human rights lawyer, through 27 years as a global HR and leadership-development leader; to the burnout at 34 that first revealed how much her body had been carrying; the day a coach told her "you have to go through the body — try TRE"; her training at the Strozzi Institute and with Dr. David Berceli; and the work she's building now — bringing Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) and nervous system regulation into the corporate world, where she argues that in the age of AI, our regulated, embodied humanity is the only real differentiator left. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:28 - A French girl who never planned to leave home 5:07 - The human rights lawyer she meant to be — and the question that redirected her 9:52 - Hitting the limit of cognitive coaching: "What is presence?" 12:37 - Burnout at 34 — and discovering developmental trauma 16:16 - "You have to go through the body" — first hearing of TRE® 17:47 - The first session and the answer to presence 19:28 - "Safety is a felt sense" — the self-awareness gap 22:55 - The being-versus-doing shift in leadership 25:15 - Holding space and the fulfillment of the organism's tremor 28:31 - An hour of tremoring: the anger practice at the Strozzi Institute 32:30 - Executive presence isn't a skill — it's the nervous system 34:59 - What makes us human in the age of AI 4 4:22 - Selling resilience, not trauma: the language corporate can hear 51:04 - "Presence and Self-Regulation for Coaches": TRE® meets ICF 53:57 - The coaches' burnout epidemic 1:01:12 - A dream of embodied leadership going mainstream 1:12:11 - Closing reflections RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Isabelle Claus Teixeira — leadership, somatic and trauma-informed coach, certified TRE® provider and trainer, and co-founder of Business & Human Development Asia, based near Kyoto, Japan: [add Isabelle's primary link before publishing] Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Richard Strozzi-Heckler and the Strozzi Institute, Amanda "Mandy" Blake (author of Your Body Is Your Brain ), David Treleaven (trauma-informed mindfulness), Jon Kabat-Zinn (MBSR), the International Coaching Federation (ICF), and Isabelle's somatic colleague Simba Stenqvist. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #24

  E24 - Humanitarian Applications of TRE: Disaster Response & Finding Local Champions with Sae Kani

  Jul 17, 20261h 16m

  In 2004, photojournalist Sae Kani was dropped by a US helicopter into Aceh, Indonesia, days after the tsunami erased entire villages. She walked, photographed, interviewed — and felt nothing. It was only back home, diagnosed with PTSD, that she began to understand what disaster leaves in the body. Two decades of humanitarian work later, she is still answering the question that experience planted: why is trauma care the piece disaster response keeps leaving out? In this episode, Alex sits down with Sae to trace that arc: from development studies in London and photojournalism in East Timor and post-tsunami Aceh; through ten years building disaster-preparedness education in Indonesia — including materials for children with disabilities that were showcased at the UN; to discovering Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) in 2012 and recognizing "the missing piece" of her aid work; the decision after the 2015 Nepal earthquake to quit her job, sell everything, and teach at a nun school in Kathmandu; the hard lessons about why quick international responses don't last; and the community facilitator model now bearing fruit in Nepal and Vietnam — where a war veteran's forty-year phantom pain finally released, and his voice reached the government in Hanoi. Sae Kani, also known as Khalida, holds bachelor's and master's degrees in International Development from SOAS, University of London, and spent 13 years working across disaster-affected regions in Asia. She discovered TRE® in 2012 while supporting recovery efforts after the Great East Japan Earthquake, became a certified provider in 2013, and spent a year in Nepal after the 2015 earthquake providing trauma care and training local therapists. Since 2016 she has been the representative of TRE for ALL Japan, and as an internationally certified TRE® trainer she conducts workshops in five Asian countries and works with clients across Europe and the Americas. She lives in Yamanakako Village, Yamanashi Prefecture, at the foot of Mount Fuji. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 - Welcome & introductions 3:24 - A childhood pull toward the world's hardest places 5:34 - Photojournalism: asylum seekers, East Timor & the stories behind the scenes 9:47 - Flying into Aceh after the 2004 tsunami 11:52 - "When I was there, I felt nothing" — coming home with PTSD 14:34 - A careful recovery: rest, meditation & 10,000 photographs 17:50 - The Yogyakarta earthquake & a decade in humanitarian aid 19:43 - Disaster-preparedness education for children with disabilities 27:27 - Discovering TRE®: the missing piece of aid work 28:54 - Aceh ten years later: new buildings, unhealed scars 35:29 - "Joan, we are going there" — the Nepal decision 40:46 - Learning from failure: why quick responses don't stay 41:56 - Jamuna's decade with survivors of trafficking 48:33 - Why standard certification can't reach the grassroots 53:11 - The Vietnam disability project: phantom pain & a trip to Hanoi 1:07:18 - "There is no shortcut" — support, not supervision 1:09:44 - What's next for Sae: subtle body, meditation & couples work 1:14:23 - Closing reflections RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Sae Kani — internationally certified TRE® certification trainer based in Yamanashi, Japan, and representative of TRE for ALL Japan: https://www.saekani.com/english Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Joan McDonald (TRE® trainer and Sae's partner in the Nepal project), Tsoknyi Rinpoche (whose nun school invited them to Nepal), Jamuna (community facilitator in Nepal), and TRE for All. (Full links in the internal notes below.) Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #23

  E23 - One World, One Family: 1,000 TRE® Workshops Across Indonesia with Hindra Gunawan

  Jul 3, 20261h 3m

  A betrayed business partner. Five years of anger and sleepless nights. A vow of forgiveness that the mind made but the body refused to keep. That was Hindra Gunawan's life before he found Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises (TRE®) — and a seven-minute phone call afterward showed him something had changed at a level no amount of willpower had reached. In this episode, Alex sits down with Hindra Gunawan — Indonesia's first TRE provider and now its certification trainer — to trace that arc: from physics teacher to tuition-center entrepreneur; from the betrayal that stole his sleep to the training room in Singapore where sixty people tremored and he didn't; from paying for radio spots he couldn't yet explain to reaching more than 40,000 Indonesians; and from a single vow in Phoenix, Arizona — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" — to celebrating his team's 1,000th workshop with Dr. David Berceli. Along the way: leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with 600 soldiers at a time, the Shaka Foundation's work with teachers, police, and disaster survivors, the durian farm he planted to fund it all, and the 3 a.m. phone commitment every Indonesian provider makes to their alumni. Hindra Gunawan is a TRE® certification trainer and provider based in Jakarta, Indonesia. A former physics teacher and education entrepreneur, he became Indonesia's first TRE provider in 2013 and has since built one of the most active TRE communities in the world — over 1,000 workshops delivered and more than 40,000 people reached. He leads TRE Indonesia and co-founded the Shaka Foundation with Dr. David Berceli, a not-for-profit bringing TRE to teachers, police, military personnel, and communities affected by natural disasters across Indonesia. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions — a decade of inspiration 5:57 The physics teacher whose students wouldn't let him go 7:38 Building a tuition-center business — five branches and a franchise 9:46 The betrayal that brought five years of anger and sleepless nights 10:48 "I said I forgive them — but when I heard their voice, the anger came back" 12:19 Sixty people tremoring in Singapore — and Hindra didn't 13:19 The second training: anger rising from stomach to throat 15:01 The seven-minute phone call that changed everything 16:00 Phoenix, 2013 — "TRE must be learned by all Indonesian people" 20:20 Radio ads he couldn't explain — and 40,000 people later 22:50 The Shaka Foundation: disasters, guardians, and teachers 27:39 A durian farm with a mission 31:05 "Almost every day I get a testimonial" — what Hindra is most proud of 33:40 Why people stop — the wound-washing analogy and lifelong free gatherings 36:46 Leading Neurogenic Tremoring safely with groups of 600 43:57 The 3 a.m. commitment every Indonesian provider makes 49:23 An earthquake, a traumatized boy, and what the tremors made possible 52:31 Tremor stigma in Indonesian culture — "this is very natural" 57:11 "TRE is a gift" — one world, one family 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with Hindra Gunawan — TRE® certification trainer in Jakarta, Indonesia, leader of TRE Indonesia and co-founder of the Shaka Foundation. https://www.treindonesia.com/ Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®, co-founder of the Shaka Foundation), Chris Balsley (Hindra's first TRE teacher), TRE Indonesia, and the Shaka Foundation. (Full links in the internal notes below.) 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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  Episode #22

  E22 - Neurogenic Tremoring as a Dynamic Superpower for Kids with Vera Live, Špela Potočnik & Katja Jarc

  Jun 26, 20261h 5m

  Most people meet Neurogenic Tremoring through trauma work. This conversation asks a different question: what if kids learned it first — as a built-in resilience skill, before the world ever tells them something is wrong? In this episode, Alex sits down with three women working at the frontier of that idea — Vera Live, Špela Potočnik, and Katja Jarc — to trace how Neurogenic Tremoring is being reframed for youth: why nervous system regulation has been “kept behind the clinical wall”; how Vera co-developed the book Dynamic Superpower: Inner Strength for Kids & Teens with TRE® creator Dr. David Berceli; and how Špela and Katja piloted a school curriculum in Slovenia where five to seven minutes of guided tremoring, twice a week, began changing how teenage students slept, focused, and felt in their own bodies. Along the way: the science stations that teach kids about the vagus nerve and interoception, why a safe relationship matters more than a perfect protocol, and how the body becomes a friend rather than a problem to fix. Vera Live co-founded Dynamic Superpower with Dr. David Berceli to bring the body’s natural tremoring reflex to kids and teens as a proactive resilience tool, not a clinical intervention. A PE teacher, yoga trainer, and certified TRE® provider, she works to equip the adults in children’s lives to pass on nervous system training safely. Find the work at https://www.reflexomobility.org Špela Potočnik is a Slovenian youth counselor, social pedagogue, and school counselor with nearly 20 years in schools, a certified TRE® provider, and one of two pilot developers behind the Slovenia study. She collaborates with the Intigrum Institute and advocates for burnout prevention in schools. Katja Jarc is a primary school teacher, marriage and family therapist, gestalt counselor, arts therapies specialist, and certified TRE® provider — the second Slovenia pilot developer. Through her practice, Manus Katja Jarc, she has integrated body-oriented and dance-movement work for over 13 years, and co-led the 2024 “TRE with Kids” training in Amsterdam with Vera. ⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS 0:00 Welcome & introductions 6:04 The problem: regulation “kept behind the clinical wall” 6:42 Giving youth agency: “the body is really your best friend” 8:28 How the name “dynamic superpower” came to be 10:07 Špela on test anxiety, panic attacks, and the missing body piece 14:23 Adapting tremoring for kids — toys, play, and safety 15:52 The book as a manual, not just a story 20:20 Science stations: three brains, the vagus nerve, interoception 22:17 A 10-year-old reads it cold — and tremors on their own 25:51 A mother, a doctor, and her daughter’s aha moment 28:53 Lifting the stigma: “this is your power” 33:53 Inside the Slovenia pilot: how it began 35:20 Five to seven minutes, twice a week 43:14 Špela’s surprise: how little tremoring is enough 4 5:10 The real key — a safe relationship 50:01 What’s next: educational programs & specialized guides 57:14 Closing reflections: “pay attention, become astonished” 🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS Connect with the guests — Reflexive Mobility Academy (Vera Live): https://www.reflexomobility.org · Špela Potočnik: https://www.mojesledi.com · Katja Jarc: practice MANUS. The Slovenia pilot and the family’s TRE® videos with Dr. Berceli are linked in the internal notes below. Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Linnea Gillen, Dr. Lisa Glenk, the Intigrum Institute, and the International Baccalaureate framework. Continue your journey with Neurogenic Integration 🔗 Join our live weekly classes → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#classes 🎓 Explore our Online TRE® Certification → https://neurogenic-integration.com/webshop/#cert 📍 FIND US ONLINE Neurogenic Integration: https://neurogenic-integration.com/ Instagram: @neurogenicintegration

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