
Episode #9
The Operator Trap: You Have the Controls
Mike DeJong is an author, TEDx speaker, franchise owner and turnaround specialist. Mike shares his views on the Operator Trap, that many business owners find themselves in, and ways to escape that constraint. Along the way we discuss β The Journey (1:15), Nothing Bundt Cakes (4:00), Letting Go of the Ego (9:45), Don't Scale Chaos (12:30), Types of Leaders (17:00), Pilot Stuff (20:30), Instructor Pilots (23:45), You Have the Controls (27:00), IFR vs. VFR (27:45) and What do you want More? (32:45). Grab a copy of Mike's book @ Grow Smart: Your Path to Freedom This podcast is teamed with LukeLeaders1248, a nonprofit that provides scholarships for the children of military veterans. Help us sponsor 5 scholarships for 2026. Send a donation, large or small, through our website @ www.lukeleaders1248.com , PayPal, or Venmo @LukeLeaders1248. Music intro and outro from the creative brilliance of Kenny Kilgore . Lowriders and Beautiful Rainy Day.






