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Leading Without Illusions

Hosted by Athena · business · EN-US

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Leading Without Illusions is Athena’s podcast for leaders navigating the fast-moving, often misunderstood world of artificial intelligence. Co-hosts Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly bring candid conversations with innovators on what AI is, where it goes wrong, and how to lead with better questions, sharper judgment, and real accountability. Expect practical clarity on bias, trust, risk, and the human choices shaping what comes next.

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Selective

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What is Leading Without Illusions about?

Leading Without Illusions is Athena’s podcast for leaders navigating the fast-moving, often misunderstood world of artificial intelligence. Co-hosts Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly bring candid conversations with innovators on what AI is, where it goes wrong, and how to lead with better questions, sharper judgment, and real accountability.

Who hosts Leading Without Illusions?

Leading Without Illusions is hosted by Athena. The show has published 57 episodes to date.

What has Leading Without Illusions covered recently?

Recent episodes include "Garry Ridge | WD-40 | June" (1 June 2026, 41 minutes), "Kaye Foster | BCG | May" (4 May 2026, 49 minutes), and "Dr. Carlos Nunez | Resmed | April" (6 April 2026, 43 minutes).

How often does Leading Without Illusions publish?

Leading Without Illusions publishes roughly monthly, with episodes averaging 37 minutes across 57 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on Leading Without Illusions?

Booking probability for Leading Without Illusions is 41%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Leading Without Illusions requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Leading Without Illusions's contact route on record: verified email.

Who should pitch Leading Without Illusions?

The strongest fits for Leading Without Illusions are IT Services & Software Development and Business & Management Consulting. Leading Without Illusions has a business audience.

About the host

Athena hosts Leading Without Illusions, a business podcast with 57 episodes published.

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Recent episodes

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  • Leading Without Illusions

    Garry Ridge | WD-40 | June

    Jun 1, 202641 min

    What does it take to build a culture where people genuinely love coming to work? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jay Connolly sit down with leadership icon and former WD-40 CEO Garry...

  • Leading Without Illusions

    Kaye Foster | BCG | May

    May 4, 202649 min

    In a world shaped by disruption, uncertainty, and accelerating AI adoption, what does effective leadership actually look like? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly are joined...

  • Leading Without Illusions

    Dr. Carlos Nunez | Resmed | April

    Apr 6, 202643 min

    Artificial intelligence is moving fast—but is it really as disruptive as it seems? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly sit down with Dr. Carlos Nunez of ResMed to separate...

  • Mar 2, 202651 min

    In this episode of Athena’s Leading Without Illusions , hosts Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly sit down with Dr. Stephen Morse, founder of Unchained Solutions, an Australian-based consulting firm focused on modern...

  • Feb 2, 202653 min

    What happens when traditional leadership models stop working? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Athena leaders Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly join Reverend Sean Harvey of the Warrior Compassion Institute...

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  • Jan 5, 202640 min

    In the launch episode, Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly welcome Claire Roberts and Antony Roberts, co-founders of Full Fathom five, for a raw conversation on AI’s biggest illusions. They unpack why AI isn’t a panacea...

  • Dec 1, 202528 min

    In this episode of Lifting While Climbing , Holly Smithson sits down with “hug dealer” Angela Pennella to explore the movement behind Hugs in the Wild. Angela shares how intentional connection, nervous system awareness...

  • Oct 27, 202540 min

    In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month, Dr. Tina Rinker —co-founder & Chief Scientific Officer of Syantra Inc. —joins host Holly Smithson to unpack a breakthrough approach to early detection: a simple blood test that...

  • Sep 29, 202531 min

    From the slopes of Mount Kenya to the halls of Cambridge and the UN General Assembly, Esther Mutuma, founder & CEO of the Boreka Group , shares how a village girl with a love of math became a banking leader turned...

  • Aug 26, 202538 min

    In this episode of the Lifting While Climbing podcast, Athena CEO Holly Smithson sits down with Claude Jones, CEO of Do It With AI, for a powerful, perspective-shifting conversation about what it really means to lead...

  • Jul 29, 202534 min

    In this powerful episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing , host Holly Smissen sits down with biotech trailblazer Dr. Tina Nova for an intimate, candid conversation about resilience, leadership, and purpose. From...

  • Jun 23, 202527 min

    As political pressure mounts and corporate DEI efforts are being quietly rebranded or rolled back, Athena’s leadership is standing firm. In this powerful episode, Athena CEO Holly Smithson is joined by Board Chair Susan...

  • May 23, 202533 min

    In this month’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, we spotlight the unstoppable Rijon Charne —a lawyer, cancer warrior, and fierce advocate who turned every obstacle into ammunition for change. Just two days after...

  • Apr 28, 202534 min

    In Athena’s April edition of Lifting While Climbing , CEO Holly Smithson welcomes Dr. Nima Alamdari, Chief Science Officer at Ritual, as the podcast’s first featured workplace ally. Against the backdrop of today’s...

  • Leading Without Illusions

    Misti Cain | Techstars | March 2025

    Mar 25, 202535 min

    In celebration of Women’s History Month, Athena was honored to spotlight powerhouse entrepreneur, marketing strategist, and business reality show host Misti Cain on our Lifting While Climbing podcast. And if you missed...

  • Jan 27, 202533 min

    Join us for an inspiring conversation with Lara Wynne, co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer of Gate Sciences, on this month’s episode of Lifting While Climbing. Lara shares her remarkable journey from being a...

  • Sep 25, 202439 min

    In this episode of Athena's Lifting While Climbing podcast, Holly Smithson, President and CEO of Athena, sits down with Lifting While Climbing Summit speaker Dr. Sheila Gujrathi. Dr. Gujrathi shares her inspiring...

  • Leading Without Illusions

    Sarah Hassaine | ResMed | August 2024

    Aug 27, 202421 min

    In the latest episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, host Holly Smithson, Athena’s President and CEO, welcomes Sarah Hassan, Head of Global Diversity & Inclusion at ResMed. Sarah shares her inspiring...

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