A podcast about life overseas with USAID. Former USAID Foreign Service Officers recall moments of danger, traveling to monitor remote projects, hosting VIP visitors, how moving to a new country every few years impacted their families, and more.Their stories are harrowing and hilarious, heartbreaking and joyful. Because USAID service was never a job. It was our life.Learn more and get in touch at http://www.itwasneverajob.com/
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Signup to Generate a PitchA podcast about life overseas with USAID. Former USAID Foreign Service Officers recall moments of danger, traveling to monitor remote projects, hosting VIP visitors, how moving to a new country every few years impacted their families, and more. Their stories are harrowing and hilarious, heartbreaking and joyful. Because USAID service was never a job. It was our life.
It Was Never a Job is hosted by Chris Saenger. The show has published 16 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Reactions to Loss" (18 August 2026, 52 minutes), "LGBTQI+ Diplomats" (11 August 2026, 48 minutes), and "Pets." (4 August 2026, 22 minutes).
It Was Never a Job publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 33 minutes across 16 episodes.
Booking probability for It Was Never a Job is 28%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. It Was Never a Job requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. It Was Never a Job's contact route on record: public web form.
The strongest fits for It Was Never a Job are Defense & International Affairs. It Was Never a Job has a society audience.
Chris Saenger hosts It Was Never a Job, a society podcast with 16 episodes published.
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Episode #16
This whole show is a reaction to the loss of USAID. Not so much the loss of the Agency’s lifesaving programs or its contribution to our national security. Not even the loss of a part of our country’s own sense of...
Episode #15
USAID’s LGBTQI+ diplomats had different experiences, navigating the policies and norms of both the U.S. and the places where they served. Many countries around the world don’t recognize same-sex marriages, and therefore...
Episode #14
USAID’s overseas staff took their whole lives with them from country to country, including their pets. Living and working all over the world offered plenty of opportunities for USAID staff to adopt dogs and cats in need...
Episode #13
I’ve had a lot of conversations as a part of making this show. In most cases, I was able to find thematic groupings to create episodes. But there were also a bunch of harrowing, hilarious, improbable stories that just...
Episode #12
Life overseas with USAID meant spending years at a time far from extended families and home communities. During those times, the Agency’s staff found new connections with the colleagues and families serving alongside...
Episode #11
<p>The experience of navigating health and health-care captures both the adventure and the mundane realities of everyday existence overseas with USAID. Mystery ailments and emergency room visits feel very different in...
Episode #10
The COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 was difficult for just about every person on the planet. We all have losses from that time, some large and tragic, others small but often long-lasting. For those posted abroad with USAID...
Episode #10
<p>The COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 was difficult for just about every person on the planet. We all have losses from that time, some large and tragic, others small but often long-lasting.</p> <p>For those posted abroad...
Episode #9
<p>USAID people have a lot in common with military people: a wicked sense of humor, a sort of weird enthusiasm for hard problems, and a commitment to getting the job done no matter what.</p> <p>When USAID folks and...
Episode #9
USAID people have a lot in common with military people: a wicked sense of humor, a sort of weird enthusiasm for hard problems, and a commitment to getting the job done no matter what. When USAID folks and military folks...
Episode #7
<p>Life and work with USAID offered amazing experiences.</p> <p>Visits to the wildest, most beautiful, most remote places in the world. Meetings in the Presidential palace or the White House. Real human connection...
Episode #6
<p>A US Embassy has no higher purpose than serving Americans overseas. When a fellow citizen loses their passport, ends up in jail, gets seriously ill, or dies in another country, specialized State Department officers...
Episode #5
<p>This episode doesn’t need much of an intro or summary. It doesn’t have obscure government acronyms or a lot of Embassy inside baseball that needs explaining. USAID’s diplomats of color had different experiences, and...
Episode #5
<p>Embassy life can be pretty fancy. Diplomats meet with heads of state, CEOs, and Ambassadors. The President, Cabinet secretaries, and other Washington bosses visit. The only thing that’s a bigger deal than a VIP is a...
Episode #3
<p>The families of USAID’s foreign service staff had a tough job.</p> <p>They moved every few years, to new schools, new houses, new cultures and climates. Spouses and kids had to reinvent themselves in every place...
Episode #3
<p>USAID's real work took place outside the capital city. The greatest needs and opportunities for development assistance were in the more remote, more disease-affected, more unstable areas.</p> <p>USAID folks would...
Episode #2
<p>USAID didn’t work in easy countries. The Agency’s purpose was to help the United States, by helping others, in some of the toughest places in the world.</p> <p>USAID staff lived and worked in those places. In all but...
It Was Never a Job
<p>This podcast shares the stories of former USAID Foreign Service Officers, who recall moments of danger, traveling to monitor remote projects, hosting VIP visitors, how moving to a new country every few years impacted...
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