
HR.Salon Podcast
E12 | Stop Throwing Managers in the Deep End | Ron Klinger on HR.Salon Podcast
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of HR Salon, host Andrew Biernat sits down with Ron Klinger, a Houston-based consultant who helps organizations win by unlocking the power of their people. Ron and Andrew — with matching energy and gusto — dig into why so many organizations are stuck at historic lows in engagement, and why the fix isn't a pizza party or a ping pong table. Ron and Andrew compare frameworks for defining engagement before zeroing in on the real lever for organizational change: the middle manager. Ron makes the case that mid-management is the glue holding companies together — the conduit between executive vision and frontline execution — and that most organizations set new managers up to fail by promoting their best individual contributors without ever training them to lead people. In this episode, you'll learn: Why nearly two-thirds of the global workforce is disengaged — and why that hurts the engaged one-third the most Why middle managers are the most critical (and most neglected) layer in any organization The danger of turning technical superstars into managers without training ("you just killed their career") Why the word "subordinate" should be banned from every manager's vocabulary How generational differences — up to six generations in one workplace — complicate management today A simple framework for effective one-on-ones: engagement score, workload check, and priority alignment Why self-awareness is the first domino in becoming a better manager or leader The "help me help you" approach to managing up and protecting your team from C-suite chaos Why career pathing (not just paychecks) is key to closing the purpose gap between frontline workers and executives Ron's bottom-line philosophy: "Take care of your people, and they'll take care of your business" Ron Klinger helps organizations win through the power of employee engagement, retention, and people-first management. Connect with him on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronklinger/ or visit his site at mtran.com. Support the show

