Episode #13
What They Don't Tell You About Property Flipping - Matt Jones
Property flipping, real estate investing, auctions, agent commissions and the future of real estate in New Zealand. Matt Jones has spent more than 20 years in the industry, from school teacher and property flipper to founder of Independent Agent and a leader in the independent real estate movement. So what does it really take to make money in property? And is property flipping actually as easy as it looks? In this episode of HomeRun, Matt Jones opens up about his years buying, renovating and selling property, the risks that come with a high-volume flipping strategy, and the lessons he learned along the way. He also explains why he challenged the traditional real estate agency model and built Independent Agent around autonomy, personal branding and giving agents greater control over their businesses. ⏱️ Chapters 0:00 – Introduction: Matt Jones' journey 1:45 – From school teacher to real estate 5:20 – How Matt got into property flipping 10:15 – Finding undervalued properties 15:30 – The reality and risks of property flipping 21:10 – What happens when the market turns 26:40 – Building a real estate business from scratch 32:15 – Why Matt challenged the traditional agency model 37:50 – The future of independent real estate 43:20 – Are auctions really the best way to find value? 48:10 – What agents get wrong about price 53:00 – Building your personal brand as an agent 57:30 – Why creativity matters outside real estate 1:01:20 – Matt's biggest lessons from 20+ years in property 1:05:00 – What would Matt do differently today? 1:08:00 – Final thoughts In this episode • The reality of property flipping in New Zealand • How to identify undervalued property opportunities • The risks of relying on a high-volume flipping strategy • Why private sales can uncover opportunities • What makes a successful real estate agent • Why traditional agency models are being challenged • Agent commissions and business ownership • Whether auctions really create better price discovery • Why agents should focus on their clients—not just the highest price • The future of independent real estate in New Zealand • Why creativity, hobbies and life outside property matter • The lessons Matt wishes he knew earlier in his career Matt's journey from teaching to property, entrepreneurship and building an independent agency is a fascinating look at what happens when you stop following the traditional path. This is HomeRun — conversations with the people challenging the way New Zealand thinks about property, business, wealth and the future. If you enjoyed this episode, like, subscribe and turn on notifications for more conversations with New Zealand's leading voices. Stay connected with Homerun Podcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@HomerunpodcastnzSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Ik9md6okR9DaNIPwS7gJdApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homerun-x-realestate-co-nz/id1815415116Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/homerunpodcastnzTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@homerunnzLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/homerunnz/
