
Episode #237
EP237: Visible Leadership: A Conversation with Dr. Shannon Udovic Constant
Physician Women Rising: Strategic Leadership, Visibility, and Sponsorship for Women in Medicine Christine interviews Dr. Shannon Udovic Constant, a San Francisco pediatrician and immediate past president of the largest state medical association and only the fifth woman to hold the role in over 160 years, about advancing women physicians into leadership. Dr. Constant shares a childhood story from her daughter about “boy money,” illustrating how ambition and leadership are gendered, and explains how this shaped her drive to expand women’s representation in executive rooms. Dr. Constant describes launching Physician Women Rising as coaching and education, including a weekly Substack newsletter, to teach leadership skills she learned without a roadmap. Key themes include being strategic about career direction, making impact visible, stating ambitions, and building sponsorship (distinct from mentorship) through purposeful conversations. She discusses the narrower range of acceptable leadership behaviors for women and urges intentional positioning to improve healthcare decisions. Linkd to find Dr. Constant: at her website and on her substack . 00:00 Meet Dr Shannon 00:49 Boy Money Moment 02:58 Why Visibility Matters 04:03 Launching Women Rising 06:02 Three Leadership Keys 08:20 Sponsors Not Mentors 10:07 Her Path to President 13:03 Owning Ambition 14:53 Invisible Work Trap 15:51 Leading in a Narrow Box 19:09 Taking Credit Gracefully 19:55 Final Leadership Challenge

