
Episode #57
1. The Economic Case for Educational Attainment: A Conversation with Eloy Ortiz Oakley and Zach Mabel
In this EdUp Provost episode, which marks the beginning of the fifth season of ACAO's official podcast, host Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner interviews Dr. Eloy Ortiz Oakley and Dr. Zach Mabel about "The Golden Ticket," a study commissioned by College Futures Foundation and conducted by Georgetown University, examining the economic impact of California reaching a 70% educational attainment goal. The conversation explores how closing this attainment gap could generate $4.4 trillion in economic benefits for the state, with implications spanning tax revenue, workforce participation, and reduced incarceration costs across demographic lines. Oakley and Mabel discuss why the timing of this research is especially significant amid a gubernatorial election cycle and offer guidance for provosts and other higher education leaders on using this data to advocate for their institutions, realign academic programs with labor market demands, and address longstanding disparities in access and outcomes for underrepresented students. Attainment drives massive economic returns: Reaching California's 70% educational attainment goal could generate $4.4 trillion in economic impact, benefiting the state broadly across tax revenue, workforce participation, and reduced incarceration costs. The benefit isn't limited to degree-holders: Higher educational attainment lifts outcomes for all Californians, not just those who earn credentials, making it a collective economic and social investment. Provosts need to reframe their advocacy: Institutional leaders should move past abstract claims of "value" and instead use concrete economic data to demonstrate how their programs impact student mobility and opportunity. Programs must track labor market demand: With 85% of good jobs projected to require postsecondary credentials by 2031, academic portfolios need regular realignment with real workforce needs rather than credentialing for its own sake. Closing equity gaps requires structural change: Addressing disparities among demographic groups calls for disaggregated data analysis, tailored student support systems, and stronger community partnerships.






