
EA Forum Podcast (All audio)
“Reasons why far-future civilizations may still greatly value biodiversity” by Tandena Wagner
Many people here have dismissed the value of biodiversity because it's not an x-risk an "ecosystem" does not experience qualia preserving large natural areas often conflicts with both economic growth and with boosting wild animals' welfare However, if humanity survives to build a flourishing future, it's reasonable to think that the inhabitants of this far-future civilization will greatly value Earth's heritage of biodiversity, similar to how they will likely appreciate cultural & historical artifacts. (The value derived from biodiversity could be a tiny 0.000001% percentage of total future value, yet at the same time be immense absolute amounts of enjoyment / appreciation / etc, more than we can even comprehend today.) Previously, I've examined other common justifications for ecological value (ecosystem services + x-risk from ecological collapse) and found that they don't hold much water. I now think that, by relatively standard longtermist arguments, preserving earth's biological richness into the far-future is probably the most important aspect of environmental conservation actions we could take today. Why would a super-civilization at technological maturity have any use for the highly imperfect products of five billion years' blind evolution? People today intrinsically value biodiversity for many reasons [...] --- Outline: (01:50) Variety (02:26) Irreplaceability (03:56) Historicity (05:19) Cost-Disease (06:27) Conclusion (06:47) Does this actually affect real-world conservation decisions? (08:12) Other Potential Sources of Value (08:18) Animal Preference Utilitarianism (09:24) Uncertainty about the true system of morality? (10:18) We just like trees? (10:53) How much do these values dominate our decisions versus other values? The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 28th, 2026 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AGEqHo5WHLiGQAJuw/reasons-why-far-future-civilizations-may-still-greatly-value --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .

