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Design Systems WTF

Hosted by zeroheight · business · EN-US

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A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.

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What is Design Systems WTF about?

A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.

What has Design Systems WTF covered recently?

Recent episodes include "Is structured content important for design systems in the age of AI?" (27 October 2026, 60 minutes), "What should you automate in design systems?" (13 October 2026, 55 minutes), and "Are we doing motion right in design systems?" (29 September 2026, 49 minutes).

How often does Design Systems WTF publish?

Design Systems WTF publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 45 minutes across 62 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on Design Systems WTF?

Booking probability for Design Systems WTF is 32%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Design Systems WTF requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Design Systems WTF's contact route on record: verified email.

Who should pitch Design Systems WTF?

The strongest fits for Design Systems WTF are IT Services & Software Development. Design Systems WTF has a business audience.

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Design Systems WTF is a business podcast with 62 episodes published.

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Recent episodes

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  • Episode #66

    Is structured content important for design systems in the age of AI?

    Oct 27, 20261 hourS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #65

    What should you automate in design systems?

    Oct 13, 202655 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #64

    Are we doing motion right in design systems?

    Sep 29, 202649 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #63

    Is generative UI ever going to happen?

    Sep 15, 202651 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #61

    What is the future of agentic design systems?

    Aug 18, 202644 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

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  • Episode #60

    How do you get research findings back to the design system team?

    Aug 4, 202653 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #59

    Is Governance Just Theater?

    Jul 21, 202648 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #58

    What do the Config 2026 announcements mean for design systems?

    Jul 14, 202655 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #57

    ⁠⁠Is driving adoption just a polite way of begging

    Jul 7, 202640 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #56

    If AI can generate your design system docs, what does that say about how valuable those docs were in the first place?

    Jun 22, 202643 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #55

    Is Figma holding design systems back?

    May 26, 202646 minS2

    Is Figma holding design systems back? Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In...

  • Episode #54

    How do you make developers to care about your design system?

    May 12, 202637 minS2

    Episode 54 - How do you make developers to care about your design system? Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all...

  • Episode #53

    Is a design system mandate worth fighting for?

    Apr 28, 202641 minS2

    Episode #53 - Is a design system mandate worth fighting for? Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf...

  • Episode #52

    Does your design system need a PM?

    Mar 31, 202641 minS2

    Episode 52 - Does your design system need a PM? Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design...

  • Episode #51

    What do you actually test?

    Mar 17, 202635 minS2

    Episode 51 - What do you actually test? Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems...

  • Episode #50

    Do MCPs care more about patterns or components?

    Mar 3, 202647 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #49

    Are we delighting enough in our design systems?

    Feb 17, 202641 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #48

    Do our design systems give new joiners anxiety?

    Feb 3, 202633 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #47

    What will happen in design systems in 2026?

    Jan 20, 202640 minS2

    Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single...

  • Episode #46

    What's with the emotional baggage with design systems?

    Jan 6, 202638 minS2

    Design system folks seem to be prone to burnout, arguments, and generally feeling underappreciated within their organizations. What makes design systems folks so prone to being loaded with additional weight? We discuss...

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