DEI Will Not Die

Is DEI dead? Not even close. DEI Will Not DIE cuts through the noise with sharp, practical insights for DEI practitioners, people leaders and changemakers. Hosted by Bree Gorman, coach, consultant and trusted voice in DEI strategy and inclusive leadership. This podcast dives into the real work behind impactful equity and inclusion. From building DEI plans that don't gather dust to leading with authenticity, this is your space to reflect, learn and lead with purpose.

DEI Will Not Die is a business podcast hosted by Bree Gorman, with 28 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

Bree Gorman hosts DEI Will Not Die, a business show with 28 episodes published.

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  Episode #27

  27: What Gari Yala 2 heard from Indigenous employees

  Sep 24, 202626 min

  In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman sits down with Professor Nareen Young, Director of the UTS Centre for Indigenous People and Work, to go inside Gari Yala 2. Designed and led by Indigenous researchers, it's the national survey of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander employees' workplace experiences. They discuss why "cultural load" is better described with the term unpaid workplace demands, why six of the ten truths haven't shifted since 2020, why identified roles still matter, and why organisations need to stop relying on the business case for DEI and start applying the Racial Discrimination Act. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #26

  26: Measuring Race and Ethnicity at Work: What Australia Gets Wrong

  Sep 10, 202631 min

  Prof Dimitria Groutsis and Prof Jane O'Leary have spent 15 years researching how Australian workplaces measure (or fail to measure) ethno-racial diversity. In this episode, they unpack why Australia still has no equivalent to WGEA's gender reporting for race, how sanitised language like "culturally diverse" has let organisations avoid the word race altogether, and why the way a question is worded can change the data it produces. They share practical advice on collecting granular, self-identified data without flattening people into stereotyped categories, and make the case for a legally mandated approach to counting race at work. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #24

  24: How do we engage men with gender equity?

  Aug 13, 202626 min

  Professor Michael Flood joins Bree to unpack why engaging men is essential to gender equity work, not an afterthought. They cover why men often fail to recognise everyday sexism, the "social norms" trick that gets more men speaking up, and a care-based lens on violence prevention that reframes accountability without losing compassion. The conversation also digs into why parental leave uptake among men remains so low, and what the economics behind that reveal about where real structural change needs to happen. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #23

  23: The Gap Between Being Included and Holding Power

  Jul 30, 202627 min

  Bree talks with William Ward-Boas, a proud Autistic and First Nations advocate with intellectual disability from the LGBTIQA+ community, about what genuine co-design requires and why most organisations aren't actually doing it. Drawing upon over seven years' experience across the advocacy sector, William draws a sharp line between consultation and co-design, unpacks the trauma embedded in asking people to share lived experience without knowing where it will lead, and reflects on actively sharing power as they moved from project worker to board chair. The episode closes on William's framework: being invited into a room isn't influence, being consulted isn't being listened to, and being present isn't having power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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  Episode #22

  22: Racial equality, but on whose terms?

  Jul 16, 202628 min

  Andrea joins Bree for an honest conversation about what anti-racism actually requires inside Australian workplaces, and why most organisations get it wrong. Drawing on her own experience as a woman of colour navigating largely white public sector organisations, Andrea unpacks the difference between individual racist behaviour and structural racism, why "I don't see colour" invalidates the people it's meant to reassure, and who really gets to decide what equality looks like. The conversation turns to workplace complaints processes, and Andrea is direct about the harm they cause: all-white investigators and decision-makers, the expectation that you educate the organisation about your own experience, and the people who quietly stop reporting because they know it will go nowhere. A grounded look at what leaders need to do differently, from racial literacy to actually handing over power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast

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