EP284 Closest Alligator to the Canoe: How Transforming SOC Became P0 for Lloyds Bank
Jun 29, 202625mS1
Hosted by Anton Chuvakin · 🇺🇸 US · EN · 281 episodes
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Cloud Security Podcast by Google focuses on security in the cloud, delivering security from the cloud, and all things at the intersection of security and cloud. Of course, we will also cover what we are doing in Google Cloud to help keep our users' data safe and workloads secure. We're going to do our best to avoid security theater, and cut to the heart of real security questions and issues. Expect us to question threat models and ask if something is done for the data subject's benefit or just for organizational benefit. We hope you'll join us if you're interested in where technology overlaps with process and bumps up against organizational design. We're hoping to attract listeners who are happy to hear conventional wisdom questioned, and who are curious about what lessons we can and can't keep as the world moves from on-premises computing to cloud computing.
Anton Chuvakin hosts Cloud Security Podcast by Google, a technology show with 281 episodes published.
Guests: Gal Ordo, Co-founder & CPO @ Native Topics: In Episode 186, we debated 'Native vs. Third-Party' as a binary choice. Native seems to be a third-party vendor whose entire existence depends on the belief that cloud-
Guest: Matt Gregson, Principal - PwC Cyber Security Topics: What is the state of the art of "agentic SOC" in 2026? Can you describe the most agentic SOC you've seen so far? In your experience, what are the main measurabl
Guest: Arvin Bansal, CISO, C&S Wholesale Grocers Topics: Most people do not associate grocery wholesale and retail with cutting edge technology and threat models. Can you produce the receipts for why this isn't a story o
Episode co-host: Marina Kaganovich, Enterprise Trust Lead, Office of the CISO, Google Cloud Guest: James Sherer, Partner at BakerHostetler Topics Is AI just an emerging technology or something bigger, deeper and differen
Guests: No guests Topics: So what have we seen at Google Cloud Next 2026? Any closing loops for our 2023-2025 Cloud Next observations? We are seeing that AI security is not an island ... what does that tell us about the
Guest: Grant Dasher, ex-CISA, ex-Google, Distinguished Engineer, Google (again) Topics: Why is the "Secure-by-Design" movement gaining so much momentum now, and is it a response to the failure of "bolted-on" security, or
Guest: Jeanette Manfra, VP, Head of Risk and Compliance, Google Cloud Topics: How does "outsourcing" security to the cloud change the intensity of the security vs. privacy struggle for a CISO? Does the centralization of
Guest: Raja Mukerji, Co-Founder & Chief Scientist, Extrahop Rafal Los, VP of Client Relations and Strategic Initiatives, Extrahop Topics: Is Network Detection and Response (NDR) coming back after being shoved to the side
Guests: Eric Foster, CEO, Tenex.AI Bashar Abouseido, President, Tenex.AI Topics: "10X SOC" sounds great. But for an organization stuck in "SIEM 1.0" with poor data quality and manual workflows, is "AI-native MDR" a "leap
Guest: Dan Lorenc, Founder / CEO, Chainguard Topics: We just saw a security tool (Trivy) get used to pop an AI infrastructure tool (LiteLLM) to eventually pop end users. Have we reached the point where our security tooli
Guests: No guests! Just Tim and Anton Topics: Hard to believe we've been doing these since 2022, is that right? What did we see this year at RSA, apart from AI? And more AI? And more AI? What framework can we use to unde
Guests: Kelli Vanderlee, Senior Manager, Threat Analysis, Mandiant, Google Cloud Scott Runnels, Mandiant Incident Response, Google Cloud Topics: Do we need to rethink "Mean Time to Respond" entirely, or are we just in de
Guest: Raffael Marty, Operating Advisor, a SIEM legend since 1999 Topics: You argue that declaring existing SIEM being obsolete is a "marketing slogan" rather than a true thesis. What is the real pain point and the actua
Guest: Allie Mellen, Principal Analyst @ Forrester, author of "Code War: How Nations Hack, Spy, and Shape the Digital Battlefield" Topics: Your book focuses on the US, China, and Russia. When you were planning the book d
Guest: Alastair Paterson, CEO and co-founder @ Harmonic Security Topics: Harmonic Security focuses on securing generative AI in use. Can you walk us through a real, anonymized example of a data leak caused by employee AI
Eric Foster
Vice President of Strategy & Research · Future Today and Tomorrow Super PAC
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Dan Lorenc
CEO and co-founder · Chainguard
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Raffael Marty
previous Chief Research and Intelligence Officer · Forcepoint
1 appearance on this show
Allie Mellen
cybersecurity analyst and author
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Dennis Chow
Director of Detection and Engineering · UKG
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