Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists. Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra Covey, with music by Kieran Kerwin.
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Booking probability
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Guest openness
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Signup to Generate a PitchMusician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.
Recent episodes include "Battling Hollywood to Save It: The One with Paul Fischer" (29 October 2026, 67 minutes), "Flea Bag and Other Originals in the Time of AI Slop" (8 October 2026, 20 minutes), and "Mood Triggers" (10 September 2026, 20 minutes).
Chaos and Creativity publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 31 minutes.
Booking probability for Chaos and Creativity is 29%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Chaos and Creativity requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Chaos and Creativity's contact route on record: public web form.
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Chaos and Creativity
In 1977 I was third in line for the first showing of Star Wars on its opening day at the Coronet theater in San Francisco. It was the first time I had ever seen people line up for a movie. The atmosphere was incredible...
Chaos and Creativity
It’s a classic Kimi and Lou episode of best laid plans. They start by talking about how professional creatives are now digital janitors to AI slop, then quickly get lost in the woods talking about Universal Basic...
Chaos and Creativity
We’ve all been there. Stuck in traffic, running late, woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Caught a mood from somebody else. Barista didn’t quite get your morning coffee right. And what started as a crap moment begins...
Chaos and Creativity
There are some things you and your loved ones can do that AI simply can’t, at least not yet: catch a laugh from a friend, surprise somebody with a spontaneous visit, wake a lover up in the middle of the night for an...
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It’s three o’clock in the afternoon. I’ve just arrived home from another sophomore day at a new high school I started attending only a few weeks earlier. Melding into this new society as an outsider isn’t going poorly...
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In this week’s minisode: Lou offers to write a treatment for a screenplay with a spectacular premise and a really good story. Kimi randomly gets cast in a short film and is relieved when it gets canceled. Drawing on...
Chaos and Creativity
Until I met three time academy award nominee Tom Myers, it never crossed my mind that a blank page to a writer is total silence to a sound designer. That something as subtle as a dog barking in the distance in a movie...
Chaos and Creativity
Close your eyes. Listen. Which sounds are soothing? Which ones drive you up a tree? Currently, outside my house there’s a mocking bird that’s making me a little crazy. But in the distance the sound of a freight train...
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Big changes are afoot at Chaos & Creativity, as our long time producer and good friend Claire Duncan moseys down the road of life to her next big thing. We wish her nothing but the best. Lest Kimi and Lou be left alone...
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<p>Big changes are afoot at Chaos & Creativity, as our long time producer and good friend Claire Duncan moseys down the road of life to her next big thing. We wish her nothing but the best.</p><p>Lest Kimi and Lou be...
Episode #9
<p>In this episode, Lou shares about a do-it-yourself project that flopped, revealing that 1) acoustics is an art form, and 2) he's terrible at acoustics. </p><p>So Lou and Kimi talk about which skills are worth...
Episode #8
<p>This week on Chaos & Creativity, we’re joined by photographer and visual artist William Waterworth. His work feels like scenes from an old film — dark, cinematic, and full of emotion. We talk about why he prefers...
Episode #7
<p>Do you have to choose between being cool and being rich?</p><p>In this episode, we talk about what it feels like to be creative right now. There’s so much content everywhere, and it can feel like you have to turn...
Episode #6
<p>In this episode, Kimi and Lou sit down with Annicka Ekvall, a Swedish-American DJ and producer making major waves in the minimal melodic house scene. Closely associated with Insomniac, Annicka has performed on the...
Episode #5
<p>How do you handle criticism when you are deeply connected to your work?</p><p>In this episode, Lou and Kimi talk about what it really feels like to receive feedback as a creative. Whether you are an artist, producer...
Episode #4
<p>In this episode, we talk all things music, DJ culture, and the creative process behind electronic music with rising DJ and producer Kieran Kerwin.</p><p>Before the interview, Kimi shares exciting news from tour. She...
Episode #3
<p>In this mini episode, Kimi and Lou talk about why staying organized is honestly one of the most important parts of being a creative professional. When you're juggling multiple projects, ideas, and deadlines, having...
Episode #2
<p>In this episode, we talk with Michael Alan Ross, photographer, author of Porsche Outlaws: Stuttgart Hot Rods, and longtime creative professional. Michael shares his journey from a 25-year career as a musician to...
Episode #1
<p>We’re kicking off the new year with some exciting announcements and big things ahead for the Chaos & Creativity universe.</p><p>This year, we’re thrilled to introduce a new podcast hosted by Sabrina Sarl. Mothers of...
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<p>We’ve made it to our last episode of the year and the season one finale.</p><p>To close things out, Lou and Kimi are sharing 12 things they’ve been loving lately. These are things that have inspired them, helped them...
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