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Hosted by Cliff Hudson and Craig Miller · business · EN · 10 episodes
What does it really take to lead a legacy brand into the digital era—and keep it thriving in the era of AI? Why do some companies succeed, and others don't? Bricks and Clicks is a masterclass in modern business strategy, discplined execution, and transformational growth. Hosted by Cliff Hudson, former CEO of Sonic Drive-In, and Craig Miller, veteran strategist and technology leader, this podcast goes inside the C-suite to explore how traditional businesses can evolve, innovate, and lead in a fast-changing, AI-driven world. Each episode features actionable, in-depth discussions with visionary executives, digital pioneers, and brand builders who are redefining what it means to serve customers in the age of disruption. From transformational leadership in legacy companies to digital strategy, operational reinvention, and customer-centric innovation in the era of AI, Bricks and Clicks offers candid, practical conversations packed with takeaways you can apply to your own business.
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Signup to Generate a PitchWhat does it really take to lead a legacy brand into the digital era, and keep it thriving in the era of AI? Why do some companies succeed, and others don't? Bricks and Clicks is a masterclass in modern business strategy, discplined execution, and transformational growth.
Bricks and Clicks is hosted by Cliff Hudson and Craig Miller. The show has published 10 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "A Universal Playbook for Brand-Building in the 21st Century" (2 December 2025, 33 minutes), "The Messy Middles: Navigating the Organizational Conflict of Digital Transformation" (18 November 2025, 31 minutes), and "New World, New Challenges, New Opportunities: Rewiring Legacy for the Digital Era" (4 November 2025, 44 minutes).
Bricks and Clicks publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 35 minutes across 10 episodes.
Booking probability for Bricks and Clicks is 28%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Bricks and Clicks requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Bricks and Clicks's contact route on record: verified email.
The strongest fits for Bricks and Clicks are Business & Management Consulting and IT Services & Software Development. Bricks and Clicks has a business audience.
Cliff Hudson and Craig Miller hosts Bricks and Clicks, a business show with 10 episodes published.
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Episode #9
Former Sonic CEO Cliff Hudson and tech executive Craig Miller (ex-CIO, Planet Fitness & Sonic) distills five critical takeaways from their series on integrating technology with brand strategy. They argue that genuine...
Episode #8
When legacy brands pivot to digital, the path is rarely linear. In this candid discussion, Sonic Drive-In’s former CEO Cliff Hudson and executives Craig Miller and Eddie Saroch dissect the turbulent rollout of their...
Episode #7
Sonic Drive-In’s former CEO Cliff Hudson and tech strategist Craig Miller reveal how they defied restaurant industry norms to build a future-proof digital platform years before COVID-19. Joined by ThoughtWorks leaders...
Episode #6
Former Sonic Drive-In CEO Cliff Hudson and cohost Craig Miller get together with key architects John Budd and Christina Vaughan to dissect one of retail’s most ambitious transformations: retrofitting 3,500 drive-ins...
Episode #5
How a fast-food giant rewrote its playbook for the digital media era. Former Sonic CEO Cliff Hudson and co-host Craig Miller reunites with media strategist Rob Jayson (USIM) to dissect Sonic’s landmark 2012 media pivot...
Episode #4
When outdated tech throttles growth, what’s the fix? For Sonic Drive-In franchise giant DL Rogers Group – operating 269+ stores – the answer was ripping out legacy systems and installing "new digital plumbing." Host...
Episode #3
Fast-food legend Robert Rosenberg — architect of Dunkin’s global expansion — joins Sonic’s Cliff Hudson and tech leader Craig Miller to dissect the unbreakable link between innovation, convenience, and survival in...
Episode #2
Former CEO Cliff Hudson and franchisee Buddy McClain unpack Sonic’s 20-year tech evolution—from skeptics to industry leaders. They reveal how early credit card readers boosted tickets by 40%, why legacy POS systems...
Episode #1
Former Sonic CEO Cliff Hudson and tech architect Craig Miller reveal how a digital transformation—sparked by Hudson’s 2004 'techno-oval' customer-engagement vision propelled the drive-in chain to $5.8B. They detail...
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Global Industry and Solutions Lead for Advertising and Marketing, Pennsylvania College of Technology
Arizona state CISO, Deputy Director for DHS Statewide Information and Privacy Office, Arizona Department of Homeland Security
Sonic Drive-In
ThoughtWorks
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