Hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford · 🇺🇸 US · EN-US · 238 episodes
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The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!
Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford hosts Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD, a business show with 238 episodes published.
In today’s episode, we revisit the work of Peter Drucker, widely considered the father of modern management. Drawing from his book, The Daily Drucker, we share several insights that have profound implications for organiz
In today's episode, Bob shares a list he developed of the conditions that help accelerate cultural change in today's fast-paced environment. The list isn't based on theory or the latest management fad. It's drawn from hi
In this episode, we use a bit of lateral thinking to explore a provocative question: What can organizations learn from healthy families? Joyce introduces a list of characteristics commonly found in healthy families, and
In today’s episode, we wrestle with a tension many OD practitioners quietly carry: wanting our work to matter without wanting to be the center of attention. Much of what we do happens behind the scenes — coaching leaders
In this episode, we dive into the provocative assertion by W. Warner Burke that much of today’s change management work is not truly Organizational Development. That may sound surprising. After all, many OD practitioners
In this episode, we explore a powerful—and often overlooked—opportunity: the workplace as a source of stability in an increasingly unstable world. At a time when the outside environment feels chaotic, divisive, and uncer
In this episode, we take the timeless insights of Peter Drucker and ask a simple question: what should HR and OD actually do with them? Drawing from The Daily Drucker, we focus on a few ideas that still hit hard. First,
In this lightning-round conversation, Bob and Joyce explore leadership through the lens of gender—challenging common assumptions about how men and women tend to lead. Do women naturally lean more collaborative? Are men m
In this episode, we tackle a blind spot in organizational development: the physical workspace. While HR and OD leaders spend countless hours shaping culture, engagement, and strategy, the environment people work in is of
In this episode, we draw a clear line between real Organization Development and work that just looks productive. Too often, OD starts with tools, processes, and “best practices”—without ever getting clear on the purpose
In this episode, we take on a hard truth: sometimes the very people trained to help organizations—OD practitioners—end up getting in the way. Great facilitation isn’t about executing a perfect plan. It’s about reading th
In this episode, we continue our conversation about the role of Organization Development in unsettled times. Last time we explored what it means to act hopeful when it’s hard to feel hopeful. This time we go a step furth
Let’s be honest. The world feels a little nuts right now. Divided. Loud. Unsettled. Tired. And organizations don’t exist outside of that. They absorb it. So in this episode, we ask a simple but uncomfortable question: Wh
What if the biggest obstacle in your organization isn’t resistance — but thinking? In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore why smart leaders keep applying logical, linear solutions to problems that require something differ
If your leadership team defines culture by your values statement, engagement scores, or what you wish were true — you don’t know your culture. You’re describing your aspirations. In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce challenge l
If you’re in OD or a leadership role, chances are your 2026 priorities already look familiar—and that might be the problem. In this episode, Bob and Joyce unpack what a group of seasoned OD practitioners believe must be
It’s January—the season of clean closets, organized drawers, and freshly emptied garages. In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce look beyond the annual cleanup ritual to ask a more interesting question: Does decluttering actually
In today’s episode, Bob ’n Joyce take on a question many organizations avoid—but can’t afford to ignore: What does the business actually need from its leaders right now? Rather than defaulting to generic competency model
What happens when you slow down, ask better questions, and resist the urge to rush to answers? In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce model a real-time reflection that sparks insight, tension, and surprising clarity for the year
In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce reflect on the start of a new year and the importance of pausing to renew and reset our intentions. Many of us begin January with resolutions to improve our health, habits, and overall we
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