Co-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S. By exploring how they built their successful careers and the impact they have made to the communities around them we hope to educate and inspire anyone building or thinking of building a career in real estate. Join us as we go Beyond the Resume.
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Signup to Generate a PitchCo-hosted by industry veterans, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker, the weekly Beyond the Resume Podcast features interviews with some of the best known real estate experts in the U.S.
Recent episodes include "Beyond the Resume podcast with Allison Smith (The mission needs the math)" (19 October 2026, 40 minutes), "Beyond the Resume podcast with Robert Sessa (Investing in more than money)" (12 October 2026, 28 minutes), and "Beyond the Resume podcast with Paul Salib (Start small, stay patient)" (5 October 2026, 23 minutes).
Beyond the Resume publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 38 minutes.
Booking probability for Beyond the Resume is 35%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Beyond the Resume requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Beyond the Resume's contact route on record: verified email.
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Episode #36
What does it take to lead an affordable housing organization, build meaningful public-private partnerships, and turn financial expertise into lasting community impact? In this episode of Beyond the Resume, host Chris...
Episode #36
What does success look like beyond a paycheck? In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Lisa Flicker and Chris Papa welcome Bob Sessa to explore career development, institutional real estate investing, leadership...
Episode #35
Paul Salib joins Beyond the Resume to discuss a career spanning real estate investment, bridge lending, and affordable housing development. From learning the business at Redstone Partners to building and selling a...
Episode #33
Andrea Kretchmer’s career was never supposed to lead to affordable housing development—and that is exactly what makes her story such a compelling fit for Beyond the Resume. Andrea, a principal and founder of Xenolith...
Episode #38
Susan DiMickele spent 21 years in Big Law before making a career pivot that ultimately led her to become President and CEO of National Church Residences. In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Susan joins Chris Papa and...
Episode #34
What happens when a pastor approaches affordable housing with the discipline, financial fluency, and ambition of a seasoned real estate developer? In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit...
Episode #35
Trevor Samios didn’t set out to build a career in affordable housing. He studied political science and philosophy, planned to attend law school, and eventually found himself teaching writing to young people in a...
Episode #34
Dan Cooper, SVP and Head of Investor Relations at Enterprise Community Partners, joins Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker for a conversation about affordable housing, investor relations, and the complex world of low-income...
Episode #33
In this Beyond the Resume Webinar Series installment, hosts Chris Papa of Jackson Lucas and Kristen Niver of Robinson+Cole examine the 21st Century Road to Housing Act and what its sweeping policy changes could mean for...
Episode #32
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Lisa Flicker sits down with Dara McQuillan to discuss an unconventional career shaped by storytelling, real estate marketing, placemaking, and the rebuilding of the World Trade...
Episode #31
Dr. Reginald Parker aka “Dr. Green Power”joins Beyond the Resume for a conversation about clean energy, affordable housing, climate finance, leadership, and creating economic opportunity for communities too often...
Episode #32
In this episode of Beyond the Resume Podcast, we speak with Jeff Lawrence, Managing Director of Affordable Housing at Berkadia, about affordable housing finance, commercial real estate, servant leadership, mentorship...
Episode #30
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, we sit down with Russell Lang, President and CEO of Catholic Homes New York, for a wide-ranging conversation about affordable housing development, nonprofit leadership, community...
Episode #30
Ada Arevalo’s career demonstrates how the right opportunity, mentor or unexpected pivot can completely change a professional trajectory. In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with...
Episode #29
In this episode of we speak with Rodger Brown, Managing Director of Real Estate Development at Preservation of Affordable Housing, about his unconventional career path and decades of leadership in affordable housing and...
Episode #26
In this episode of *Beyond the Resume*, we sit down with Allen Feliz, Vice President of Affordable and Public Housing Solutions at MRI Software, for a conversation about affordable housing, public housing, real estate...
Episode #27
In this episode of *Beyond the Resume*, we sit down with Judy Herbstman, President of Settlement Housing Fund, for a conversation about affordable housing, mission-driven leadership, nonprofit development, and building...
Episode #26
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Ken Clark, COO of Columbia Residential, for a thoughtful conversation about affordable housing, leadership, career pivots, mixed-income...
Episode #25
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Chris Papa and Lisa Flicker sit down with Jennifer Litwak, President and CEO of PEP Housing, a nonprofit affordable housing development company headquartered in Sonoma County...
Episode #24
In this episode of Beyond the Resume, we sit down with Jennifer Clausen, Partner at LEM, for a wide-ranging conversation about commercial real estate, capital raising, investor relations, value-add multifamily...
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