Beyond Success is the podcast for founders and high achievers asking the bigger questions behind what they're building. You've built a career, maybe a company, perhaps a solid portfolio, and by most measures that's gone well. What brought you here is probably something more specific: a decision you can't make, relationships that keep ending the same way, or a business you're still building at full speed without being sure what it's for. Maybe you exited, and everyone assumes you'll start another one. Maybe you want a marriage and children but keep postponing both. Maybe you have more freedom than you've ever had before but no idea what you should do with it. The usual advice is to get clear on what you want and go after it. But that treats the getting as the hard part. Actually, the hard part comes earlier. A strategy can be excellent and still rest on assumptions you've never examined: needing to stay relevant, needing to prove something, worrying about who you'd be if you stopped. Left alone, they'll keep you working for another decade toward a life you never truly wanted. Then there's a question most advice skips: whether the thing you want is worth wanting, what your way of getting it costs the people dearest to you, and who you're turning into while you go after it. You can succeed at everything you set out to do only to find you've become someone you wouldn't have chosen. Most advice takes the goal as settled and helps you get there faster. This show takes up the goals themselves. I'm David Tian, private adviser to founders, leaders, and high achievers on the bigger questions behind what they're building. My background is in philosophy, psychology, and deep therapeutic work. I was a tenure-track philosophy professor at the National University of Singapore, with a Ph.D. from the University of Michigan and fellowships at Harvard and Princeton. I'm also a Certified IFS Therapy Practitioner (Level 3) and a Brown University Certified Leadership Coach. I draw on modern psychology, Asian philosophy, and two decades of work with accomplished people who have achieved a great deal but still aren't sure what comes next. We take up the questions that remain once ambition has done its job: what a good life asks of you, what's worth wanting, what love is and what it requires, how to hold power over other people without damaging them, what you want to have contributed to the world, and how to face death well. Working through them changes what you build next, and usually changes how you relate to the people you're building it with. If the questions behind what you're building have gotten harder to ignore, this podcast is for you. For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Emotional Mastery is David Tian's step-by-step system to transform, regulate, and control your emotions... so that you can master yourself, your interactions with others, and your relationships... and live a life worth living. Learn more here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/emotionalmastery/
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#104: Would Your Life Matter If No One Remembered You?
Sep 3, 202639 min
What if your life disappeared so completely that no one remembered you? No family stories. No company. No reputation. No influence. No trace that you were ever here. Would that make your life meaningless? There's an award-winning episode of Star Trek that gets at this question better than most philosophy books. It also exposes a bargain many of us make without noticing it: we treat the present as a kind of downpayment on future permanence. Live longer. Build something that lasts. Leave a legacy. Make sure some part of you continues. All of those things can be good. But none of them is what makes a life worth living in the first place. In this episode, David Tian brings together Star Trek, Irvin Yalom, Thomas Nagel, Samuel Scheffler, and one uncomfortable fact: you are going to die. That fact does not make your life worthless. In fact, it can do the opposite. Once you stop demanding that life last forever before it can count, the people, experiences, and ordinary days you already have become easier to appreciate and value. You can want more life without needing to live forever. And mortality can open the door to more gratitude in the present. Listen to the episode now. Show Highlights Include: How you've busy at trying to "solve death" without realizing it (and how this slowly steals the joy and fulfillment from your existence) (1:24) What an episode of Star Trek (which won them a Hugo Award, the first time a television show has won such an award in 30 years) can teach you about existential crises, death, and getting the most out of the life you have (2:53) Why the "Million Year Test" can lay your legacy worries to rest once and for all (15:09) How to make your life matter today instead of tomorrow (and the insidious trap that the future holds over achievers) (26:03) A mindset shift that instantly raises your level of gratitude, enjoyment, and even eliminates your fear of death (32:03) For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Feeling like success in one area of life has come at the expense of another? Maybe you've crushed it in your career, but your relationships feel strained. Or you've built the life you thought you wanted, yet there's still something important missing. I've put together a free 3-minute assessment to help you see what's really holding you back. Answer a few simple questions, and you'll get instant access to a personalized masterclass that speaks directly to where you are right now. It's fast. It's practical. And it could change the way you approach leadership, love, and fulfillment. Take the first step here → https://dtphd.com/quiz
A life can look respectable, successful, even enviable, and still be badly chosen. The frightening part is that this usually doesn't happen because of one reckless decision. It happens through years of reasonable choices. Another demanding stage at the company. Another opportunity worth taking. Another reason to wait before making room for a serious relationship, children, old friends, or aging parents. Each decision makes sense on its own. Then one day, those decisions have added up to a life. In Tolstoy's The Death of Ivan Ilyich, a capable and respected man discovers too late that the very success that kept rewarding him also helped him avoid asking what his life was actually becoming. This episode looks at why legacy can mislead us, why success can reinforce choices that deserve more scrutiny, and how to use the deathbed test before the answer is no longer useful. If you're ambitious, still building, and still assuming there will be time for the rest of life later, listen now. Show Highlights Include: The devastating story of Ivan Ilyich's short-lived legacy (and how his story proves that building a legacy is not evidence of a well-lived life) (0:34) How to take the classic "Deathbed Test" and push it several layers deeper to uncover how to live your life well for yourself (2:21) Why external approval will subtly consume you on your deathbed with regrets you can never take back (6:15) How commercial success distorts your ability to gauge whether you're living the best life for you and your family (9:25) The single most destructive avoidant strategy (it's so dangerous because it rewards you with material success…but at a brutal cost you'll only realize after it's too late) (12:11) How to prevent your legacy ambitions from becoming one more achievement project that only exists to distract you (16:38) The case for intentionally engaging in activities that cannot scale (before they become another deathbed regret) (28:30) Leo Tolstoy's most important lesson about how public ascent and private diminishment happen simultaneously (and the difficult, but doable trick to avoid this fate in your own life) (31:04) For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Feeling like success in one area of life has come at the expense of another? Maybe you've crushed it in your career, but your relationships feel strained. Or you've built the life you thought you wanted, yet there's still something important missing. I've put together a free 3-minute assessment to help you see what's really holding you back. Answer a few simple questions, and you'll get instant access to a personalized masterclass that speaks directly to where you are right now. It's fast. It's practical. And it could change the way you approach leadership, love, and fulfillment. Take the first step here → https://dtphd.com/quiz
Success can reward a bad trade for years before the costs become obvious. The decisions usually look reasonable at the time. One more demanding year. One more important opportunity. One more stretch of travel. Marriage can wait. The children will understand. Friends will still be there. And professionally, it may keep paying off. But that's what makes the mistake so hard to catch. In this episode, we look at James Carse, Zhuangzi, Philip Ivanhoe, and Alan Watts to understand what happens when the logic of goals, scoreboards, and future results spreads into the rest of life. You'll see why caring more about a result can sometimes make you worse at getting it, why success can't tell you whether every sacrifice was worth making, and how to pursue ambitious goals without treating the present merely as the price of some future life. The point isn't to want less. The point is to stop needing success to prove more than it can. Listen to What Success Can't Tell You About Life. Show Highlights Include: 4 domains of life which cannot be tracked, measured, or optimized (and why any attempt at doing so will only sever the connective tissue) (1:04) Why the most successful professionals struggle heavily with relationships, family life, and the overall enjoyment of life (1:43) Who uses a 10-year span of life better: A founder who exited for $10 million or one who exited for $100 million? (5:06) The insidious "Second Task" trap that makes you buckle under internal pressure (when you fall into this trap, your actual skill level declines because of your internal environment) (8:27) How to delay gratification without treating the present as disposable (and why this skill is fundamental for living a good and fulfilling life) (15:43) The "Concert Pianist's Secret" for becoming masterful at your practice without sacrificing the present moment for some vague, future-oriented goal (20:18) 4 difficult-to-answer questions that will show you how closely achievement is tied to your identity (21:46) Why continued success is often more dangerous to your life's fulfillment than humiliating failure (24:40) For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Feeling like success in one area of life has come at the expense of another? Maybe you've crushed it in your career, but your relationships feel strained. Or you've built the life you thought you wanted, yet there's still something important missing. I've put together a free 3-minute assessment to help you see what's really holding you back. Answer a few simple questions, and you'll get instant access to a personalized masterclass that speaks directly to where you are right now. It's fast. It's practical. And it could change the way you approach leadership, love, and fulfillment. Take the first step here → https://dtphd.com/quiz
#101: The Brutal Cost of Keeping Your Options Open
Aug 13, 202633 min
You've spent years getting better at managing your time. But what if time management has been helping you avoid the harder problem? Productivity works beautifully when the goal is getting more done. But some of the most important things in life can't be accelerated. If you're single today, you cannot have a twenty-year marriage next year. To have a twenty-year marriage, you need to marry and then spend twenty years growing your marriage. The same is true of an old friendship. You can't manufacture decades of shared history later, no matter how much money, freedom, or efficiency you eventually have. Some things become valuable partly because of the years you've put into them. That's why postponement costs more than the time you postpone. Every year you wait is also a year in which the marriage, friendship, family, or life you say you want isn't becoming what only time can make it. This episode explores themes from Oliver Burkeman's Four Thousand Weeks and a possibility most productivity systems never ask you to consider: maybe you don't have a time-management problem. Maybe you have a decision problem. And if that's true, getting more efficient won't solve it. You have to decide what truly deserves the years before those years are gone. Listen now. Show Highlights Include: The dark side of optimizing your life (and why it took you so long to realize that the optimization was the problem, not the solution (1:17) The "4000 Weeks" secret that helps you build a meaningful life and minimize your deathbed regrets (2:05) Why getting better at answering emails doesn't inherently make you more productive (and how hustle culture distracts you from meaningful productivity) (3:32) How your obsession with productivity is secretly about this bigger, deeper, harder-to-solve problem than simply "time management" (5:12) The weird and counterintuitive reason that becoming more productive will only make you more rushed and anxious about time disappearing (7:34) 2 questions with concrete answers that will instantly tell you whether another productivity hack will help or stifle your fulfillment (8:48) Why "Existential Overwhelm" is the singlest biggest obstacle achievers will face in their life (and the tragic reason most achievers only realize this on their deathbed) (10:27) How keeping your options open subtly, yet pervasively tear every shred of enjoyment, fulfillment, and happiness from your life, piece by painful piece (26:29) For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Feeling like success in one area of life has come at the expense of another? Maybe you've crushed it in your career, but your relationships feel strained. Or you've built the life you thought you wanted, yet there's still something important missing. I've put together a free 3-minute assessment to help you see what's really holding you back. Answer a few simple questions, and you'll get instant access to a personalized masterclass that speaks directly to where you are right now. It's fast. It's practical. And it could change the way you approach leadership, love, and fulfillment. Take the first step here → https://dtphd.com/quiz
Most achievers believe that once they become successful professionally, then personal success will follow: the loving partner, the loyal friends, the children who still want to connect with them at fifty. But it works the other way. Professional success can often cost most people their personal lives, and it can do the damage while they're doing everything else right. Nobody wakes up and decides to postpone a family or let a twenty-year friendship go. It happens in half-hour chunks, over ordinary weeks, and each of those choices makes sense at the time you make it. This episode explains why, and why it comes out of the same instincts that built your career. The people it costs most are the ones who care most. Clayton Christensen taught at Harvard Business School for decades, then kept going back to his class reunions and watching people who'd graduated with every door open turn up divorced and not speaking to their kids. Not one of them had planned it. You're likely early enough to fix it. This episode covers how. Show Highlights Include: Why do so many people get duped into only caring about something that they'll regret on their deathbed? (1:26) 3 key things you'll never be able to track or put a number to that reveal how good your life actually was or wasn't (1:49) The sad truth about why so many Harvard graduates end up miserably divorced with no relationship with their children (2:52) 7 words that can prevent you from dying alone (4:40) How success tricks you into a lifetime of short-term decisions that literally starves your personal life (9:19) The "2nd thing" secret that every achiever needs if they want to succeed in their personal and professional lives (12:47) How to chuck yourself off of the metrics train before it enslaves every facet of your existence (21:50) The insidious "one reasonable exception at a time" trap that rips your fulfillment of life slowly and subtly until you realize everything you built was for nobody (23:53) For more about David Tian, go here: https://www.davidtianphd.com/about/ Feeling like success in one area of life has come at the expense of another? Maybe you've crushed it in your career, but your relationships feel strained. Or you've built the life you thought you wanted, yet there's still something important missing. I've put together a free 3-minute assessment to help you see what's really holding you back. Answer a few simple questions, and you'll get instant access to a personalized masterclass that speaks directly to where you are right now. It's fast. It's practical. And it could change the way you approach leadership, love, and fulfillment. Take the first step here → https://dtphd.com/quiz
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