Oct 26, 202621 minS12
" I think awe invites us...to be able to hold both the real pain and tragedy of existence along with the astounding courage and miracles really all around us." Motivational Interviewing trainers Carol DeFrancesco and...
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Changing the Conversation
Hosted by C4 Innovations · education · EN
About this Podcast:
Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.
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What is Changing the Conversation about?
Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.
Who hosts Changing the Conversation?
Changing the Conversation is hosted by C4 Innovations. The show has published 100 episodes to date.
What has Changing the Conversation covered recently?
Recent episodes include "Motivational Interviewing 32: Amy Shanahan and Carol DeFrancesco Pt. 2" (26 October 2026, 21 minutes), "Motivational Interviewing 31: Amy Shanahan and Carol DeFrancesco Pt. 1" (12 October 2026, 21 minutes), and "Learning from Recovery Elders: Mark Sanders" (28 September 2026, 30 minutes).
How often does Changing the Conversation publish?
Changing the Conversation publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 23 minutes across 100 episodes.
How hard is it to get booked on Changing the Conversation?
Booking probability for Changing the Conversation is 34%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Changing the Conversation requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Changing the Conversation's contact route on record: verified email.
Who should pitch Changing the Conversation?
The strongest fits for Changing the Conversation are Family & Social Services. Changing the Conversation has an education audience.
About the host
C4 Innovations hosts Changing the Conversation, an education podcast with 100 episodes published.
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Recent episodes
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Oct 12, 202621 minS12"It is a momentum…awe experience invites us into curiosity; it naturally then draws you deeper into the experience. Like for me with leaves, look at those. What are they up to? They're reaching towards sunlight. Why is...
Sep 28, 202630 minS12" Once a person learns how to develop healthy friendships, romantic relationships, then they no longer need chemicals the way they needed them in the past. In fact, I see substance use disorder as a pathological...
Episode #24
Motivational Interviewing 30: Larisa Traga
Jun 22, 202617 minS11"Clinicians…would learn EMDR, but they didn't know how to necessarily do it…there was a need for the how. So the EMDR is the what you do, and the MI is the how you do it." Expert Trainer Larisa Traga joins host Ali Hall...
Jun 8, 202659 minS11"Relationships are complicated. Everybody is surviving. Everybody's trying to figure it out. My thought is if we can't figure it out in our space, how are we going to expect the community to figure it out? We have to...
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May 27, 202615 minS11"Most importantly, elevate lived experience. Policy is most effective when it's shaped by the people directly impacted. Remember Faces who are visible, Voices, who are vocal prove recovery is valuable." Recovery...
Episode #21
Care Farming: Andrea Barnhart & Kate Mudge
May 11, 202623 minS11"The core idea is the growing itself of food and working with the animals. It's there on a farm, it's building connection, it's building skills. It's empowering people, providing oftentimes a real dignity of work in...
Apr 27, 202627 minS11"There are people that have created those pathways for themselves. We have national leadership now. That national leadership may not have occurred if it were not for the local programs that were funded…10 years...
Apr 13, 202617 minS11"I love those chapters that are about genuineness, hope and empowerment. Those were just so beautiful to approach in terms of how to have such goodwill towards those we serve." Host Ali Hall and co-author Kristin...
Mar 30, 202622 minS11"People like Howie the Harp and Sally Zinman... laid that fertile soil for those of us that have come after them, for us to really grow". Attorney and rights advocate LaVerne Miller joins host Livia Davis to discuss her...
- Mar 16, 202619 minS11
"Data is qualitative. Data is conversations...Data is lived experience." Policy advocate Tymber Hudson drops knowledge on the world of policy, how young people can become involved and how to avoid burnout as a person...
Episode #16
Motivational Interviewing 28: Kris Kelly
Mar 2, 202620 minS11How are Motivational Interviewing (MI) and Peer Support so well aligned? Peer advocate Kris Kelly and host Ali Hall consider the foundational components of autonomy, empathy, and more in this episode! Learn More: Kris...
- Feb 16, 202618 minS11
What does healing look like from different perspectives, ways of knowing, and approaches? Indigenous elder Shannon CrossBear discusses her wellness journey and the lessons she has learned along the way with host Livia...
Feb 2, 202620 minS11"We have more power very often than we give ourselves credit for. And we have to keep ourselves educated on our options. Knowing our options also helps us with the ebbs and flows." Laurie Johnson-Wade shares her...
Jan 20, 202620 minS11"When the systems fall apart, how do I still show up for other people?... If I have a resource and you have a need, that's good enough to help you. It doesn't have to be justified beyond that." Elliott H inkle shares...
Episode #12
Learning from Recovery Elders: Mark Salzer
Jan 5, 202625 minS11"Recovery is the goal. Here's one way to pursue that goal...really promoting community inclusion, supporting people and having opportunities to live a life that they want to live and supporting them with funding." Mark...
Episode #11
Learning from Recovery Elders: Judy Fox
Dec 15, 202520 minS11"Nobody wants to have a chronic illness and it's hard to acknowledge, but accepting it rather than fighting it and working on moving forward and celebrating the small increments of change...really makes a difference."...
Episode #10
Learning from Recovery Elders: Conni Wells
Dec 1, 202525 minS11"Family peer support is the critical piece that cannot be missing... this is a family, this is a family in need, and this is a family who's going to have to have someone behind them all across the way." Conni Wells...
Nov 17, 202520 minS11" I hope that we can all get better at really authentic conversation and dialogue to build that trust so that there can be more investment in the youth peer movement to move forward." Johanna Bergan and Gina Albano...
Nov 3, 202522 minS11"Developing a focus on youth peer roles opened up a whole pathway to youth advocates to find purpose and energy in this space." Johanna Bergan and Gina Albano discuss the history and current status of youth peer support...
Recent guests
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Mark Sanders
Chief Architect and Head of Autonomous Networks and AI Enablement, International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF)
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Ashley Stewart
Executive Coach and Racial Consciousness Consultant, Benchmark Home Loans
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Jeffrey Lewis
founder of Arms Control Wonk, professor at Middlebury Institute of International Studies, Middlebury Institute for International Studies at Monterey
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Dr. Jill O'Brien
Enterprise Sales Director, Koa Health
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